There are five basic Piper Cheyenne models. Oh, my, would I love one. AIRFRAME Total Time: 3319 ENGINES 1719 Hrs Since Hot Sections 60 hrs remaining until 100 hr inspection PROPELLERS: Total Hours: 166 Two 1650 hp Turboprops (MT five bladed Scimitar Propellers) EXTERIOR Done in 2008 White w/Three Dark Green Stripes INTERIOR Six (6) Passenger Executive Configuration Air Conditioning: P3 Air Turbine Aft Lav Parts availability for older Cheyennes hasn't been a problem. N47ZG | 1986 PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS on Aircraft.com 0000012267 00000 n As with any high performance airplane with many systems and basic all-weather capability, managing the Cheyenne is more taxing than maneuvering it. An angle-of-attack sensor is mounted on the nose, and is connected to a downspring. There are a few reasons this might happen: To regain access, please make sure that cookies and JavaScript are enabled before reloading the page. Browse a wide selection of new and used PIPER CHEYENNE Aircraft for sale near you at Controller.com, the leading aircraft marketplace. On the other hand, one engine burns less gas, has only one prop, etc. Other records later set by the 400LS, again piloted by Yeager in 400LS N4118Y (later reregistered as N46HL) for the C-1e Group 2 class, were: Miami-to-Boston, Miami-to-New York City, San Francisco-to-Charleston, West Virginia, San Francisco-to-Cincinnati, San Francisco-to-Los Angeles, New York City-to-Paris, Washington, DC-to-Paris and Gander-Paris. Speeds in excess of 400 MPH, 41,000 Foot Ceiling. claim might be true. N40MV | 1985 PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS on Aircraft.com https://www.trade-a-plane.com/searc&model=24E&listing_id=2394659&s-type=aircraft, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. There are two major branches to the design family. The Honeywell (Garrett) TPE331-14 engine and its fuel control unit are controlled by a computer for ease of operations. Cheyenne 400LS for sale - Omni Jet He writes that his facility currently supports about 20 Cheyennes along with a number of other turboprops. If you're stepping up from a Seneca, the 400LS is too far away, too dicey to handle (at least on the t/o-run), too expensive to operate and with parts difficult to locate (only 45 built - 2 known crashes). The power is reduced if leveling off below 25,000 feet to avoid over-speeding, as well as during descent and landing. These flag hot starts and other out The Navajo is arguably one of the best cabin-class twins, but its airframe was designed for 300-HP piston engines, not turbines that are both far more powerful and much lighter. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. The Cheyenne has the capacity for 1-2 crew members and 6-9 passengers. @ (o$y=.d;n0 Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by NadJ, Aug 9, 2021. Cheyenne 400 LS - Operating Costs & Aircraft Information The trick, as always, is to find the airplane that offers the most features for the money, fits typical mission requirements, and hits a prospective owners emotional hot buttons. View photos, ownership, registration history, and more. 0000013013 00000 n All rights reserved. endstream endobj 182 0 obj <>/Metadata 4 0 R/Pages 3 0 R/StructTreeRoot 6 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 183 0 obj >/PageWidthList<0 612.0>>>>>>/Resources<>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 184 0 obj <> endobj 185 0 obj <> endobj 186 0 obj <> endobj 187 0 obj [/Indexed/DeviceCMYK 16 198 0 R] endobj 188 0 obj <>stream The Piper Cheyenne 400LS is powered by two Honeywell TPE 331-14 engines with 1,000 shp each. There is no major pattern. This engine has a reverse flow, free turbine arrangement. All three can carry a good payload and sufficient fuel for from 900 to 1,000 nm with reserves. 0000069142 00000 n PA-42 may also refer to, "Piper Cheyenne 400LS: Big Dog Turboprop Could Best A Citation I", "Piper Cheyenne 400LS Record Set by Chuck Yeager", "Quick Look: Piper Cheyenne 400LS, Rare hot rod performs more like a jet", "Chuck Yeager - Chasing the Demons for 72 Years", "Piper PA-42 Type Certificate data sheet No. And at 12,050 pounds MGTOW, it is approved for single-pilot operations without a type rating, although insurance companies require annual training. An STC has reportedly aberration must have given rise to the big Cheyennes. I remember reading a Richard Collins column years ago in which he described the number of yellow legal pads he used up while deciding on the Cessna P210 he ultimately bought and flew for 8,000 hours. Who knows what the relative retained value of these airplanes will be 10 years from now? Piper was never noted for sophisticated engineering. The PIPER Cheyenne II has a 3,705' balanced field length and 2,482' landing distance. In the summer, when the effective density altitude is higher, attempting to hand-fly at that altitude is simply impossible. 10 Comments. One of the most annoying characteristics of the Cheyenne is caused by the aileron/rudder interconnect. Ive never flown one and am not sure how I feel about taking a Malibu and bolting a PT6 on the front of an airframe designed for a 350 horsepower piston. Most are outfitted with nine seats, including the pilot. Sure, you burn 17 gallons more per hour, but you get there before you have time to worry about fuel reserves. They put it into a lot of strips that couldnt accommodate other turboprops and a large number of piston twins. A power-to-weight ratio of 6 pounds/horsepower speaks volumes about the performance capabilities of the 400LS. The original Cheyenne is designated PA-31T. At the time, Piper Aircraft was improving on its unpressurized and pressurized piston-twin line of the Piper Navajo and Mojave. The PA-42-1000 Cheyenne 400LS seats up to 10 passengers plus 1 pilot. These other airplanes come in two varieties: another Cheyenne for which another owner has taken the leap and done the engines and now has to sell; or a different airplane such as a single-engine turboprop. Owner is Motivated and will entertain offers. Its maximum speed at optimum altitude is advertised as 283 KTAS, and it has range-verses-payload numbers very comparable to the King Airs. shows that this is clearly a problem. 0000158131 00000 n Problem with instalation. There is a lot to it. I find an airplane I like, switch to flightaware.com and check out the ground speeds on several trips. This and other systems were rationalized with the 1978 model year. 0000094113 00000 n 0000005105 00000 n 1985 PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS. A standard Cheyenne I came without wing-tip fuel tanks, but they were available as an option, and almost everyone anted up. quickly at rotation speed where a firm rearwards application of the column Written by Twin and Turbine Magazine The Cheyenne 400LS is powered by a pair of Honeywell/Allied Signal TPE331-14-801 . Piper management was slow to accept the turboprop engine; some members of the Piper family were said to be set against it. The bobweight was made available as a retrofit to earlier PA-31Ts (The modification, called the Dynamic Stability Improvement Kit is covered by Service Letter 977. Physical dimensions are the same as the PA-31T except that the basic airplane wingspan is two feet shorter (40 feet, 8 inches versus 42 feet, 8 inches) because in standard form it does not have tip tanks (although most purchasers opted for them). Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. Accidents The two most notorious Cheyenne accidents were original PA-31Ts involving longitudinal control-the much maligned SAS system. My boss did the same: I wanted the King Air, but it was too costly then. The Cheyennes are a relative bargain in both initial price and operating costs. Passenger comfort is good in our aircraft. It was costly close to $40,000. 0000022771 00000 n 0000011922 00000 n Only three ADs apply specifically to the I and none to the IIXL, although most apply to all three. A number of pilots have commented on the pitch sensitivity of the original Cheyenne during maximum power climb, with cg toward the aft limit and in approach mode. N7222F often pleasantly surprises ATC with its initial 4,000 fpm climb rate when asked for an expedited climb. At the same time, the original Cheyenne was renamed the Cheyenne II. A 900 nm flight from Northern Virginia to South Florida typically takes about 2 hours and 45 minutes. Still, thats a lot more money than overhauling the engines on our airplane. Rotol propellers (whose diameter is the same as the chassis length of a Many of the problems are reflected in service letters, bulletins (and, frequently, remedial kits. I just saw a perfectly flyable Beechjet get parted out because the cost of the upcoming service interval essentially totaled the aircraft. As to the latter, the bluebook says $120,000 to $160,000 per side, and thats a lot, but Ive heard horror stories some apocryphal suggesting that once the engine is opened, it is not uncommon to hear that the price has escalated. The next month, the flood hit. Yet, in one the airplane was clearly out of weight and balance limits and in the other there is a suspicion that the airplane was improperly loaded. The Piper PA-31T stability augmentation system (SAS) adds variable elevator force via a variable tension downspring. xref In the 400LS, they are flat rated to 1,000 shaft horsepower per side, and can make that power all the way up to about FL200depending on temperature. Uploaded: 2022-07-05. 0000068334 00000 n This was one of several attempts to overcome the poor image of Piper engineering and manufacture. Cheyenne 400LS PA 42 1000 for Sale - Globalair.com Also, the IIs generally come equipped with far superior avionics, such as the King Gold Crown instead of the panel-mounted radios in the Cheyenne I. It has aerodynamically improved nacelles that increase performance at altitude. Powerplant | (2) 1,000-shp Honeywell TPE-331-14, Takeoff distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,325 ft, Landing distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,317 ft. Get extra lift from AOPA. Studying the Pilot's manual As with the Cheyenne I, there is no stability augmentation system. Piper Cheyenne - AOPA - Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association In October of 2019, with four occupants, we traveled through Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Italy and back to Leesburg. ].i{R8:eozN./s+rSr}_" F"hBbA*9.H[bAF,%VxEp!deBBYaf9'g%FKF8x{SCZ Q0n=\CN*k5h._5cg)xw`u4 Jl3lHPEt You can get a pair with 1,500 hours remaining (that hes just taken off a II that was getting fitted with those big 135As) for $370,000. Serial #: 42-5527036. The Piper PA-42 Cheyenne is a turboprop aircraft built by Piper Aircraft. 0 t The only barricade between me and accomplishment of such grown-up activities is the fact that I love our Cheyenne. 8 answers and 5413 views Jun 15 2004. It can cruise at the same long-range speed over 1,842nmi (3,411km), 400nmi (740km) more; it can carry eight passengers farther than a King Air 200 while cruising 50kn (93km/h) faster. This vane on the earlier models tended to freeze up and sound a warning, which caused some pilots to try to disable the system.